More shit


The question I will get round to is – `Why is life shit~?`

Note: The answer has different `Levels` to be answered on.
We can use the three Levels we normally use.

Reminder of Levels –
1. Telly tubbies.
2. Self-help books.
3. I forget what I said this Level is.

The angle that comes to me this morning, is a pretty-solid Level 2. type question (I think).
That is – Was life shit for `hunter gatherers`?

I ask this, because Mrs. Mystic is doing her England week with relatives.

Where I am sure she is enjoying (actually not, but I’ll pretend) seeing her old friends and relatives … life there, is not like life here.

We have taken on enough land, that there is always something to do (and things that could not be done).
When we get up in the morning, there is a long list of things that can (should be maybe) done.
Things can be done … and satisfaction taken from doing them.

Now … in England … she is taken for a drive to a garden center … where the thing is to fill-in-time, rather than be doing anything constructive.

It is possible that a `modern brian` can be satisfied (un-shitted) by distractions, whereas older brians are programmed to be un-shitted by actually doing something constructive.



I have put this in by mistake.
I had it in the folder because I did my taxes yesterday.
I used this chart to estimate what the conversion-rate was Euro/Pounds. There is an official rate, but it is hard to find … and three seperate governnment tax people have told me to `just guess it`.

The Afganis are kinda doing farming … but, the leaders are doing a version of hunter gathering.
You can see why it took `the farmers` (with all their advantages) so long to `do away with` the hunter gatherers.
This is today (after quite a lot of trouble taken to make this map go green)

Italy and Spain are still big in the Target2. hole.
It is one of those things that don’t matter … as long as it doesn’t matter.
Note that this chart is now denominated in trillions (as so much is nowadays).

I think this is a Galbraith (senior) quote:

Sooth Ifrica the most unequal.

Just fucking stupid.
(getting on for a trillion)



  • Axionication 3

    Yes, I think that this could be so.

    Probably not a good idea to ‘up oneself’ in thinking that people can’t get POM from visiting a garden centre, playing bridge, what ever. We are (the majority) a product of our times. But I do thinks that the modern times provide ‘pom’ opportunities that are of short span. That frequently glimpsing back on short span pom’s makes the now frequent un-pom moments that much heavier.

    • If I got your last comment right (very `if`) … then, I think I will analogy to –

      Working in the garden is like parenting (a day full of small buzzes).
      Going to the garden center is like being a grandparent and being visited by the family (for half an hour).

      I would like to point out something here that is `important`.
      POM is POM. It can be got from Level 2. stuff.
      Note: Much of Level 1 and 2 stuff is shit (to the point that it is not `fact`) but POM is not too bothered about facts (attempted Level 3.).

      That is, that POM is one thing and the `facts of the matter` are likely to be very different.
      Facts can fuck POM … that is why many people reject the facts and stick with the POM.

      When we talk, it is `important` to know what we are `aiming at`.
      The recipe for facts is probably at odds with the recipe for POM.

      • Axionication 3

        The analogy has probably fallen to bits by now.

        (I am thinking that it (rewards for looking after offspring (blood or not)) is a ‘trick’. Perhaps so too ‘working in the garden’)


        I agree with your second part.

        • Ah, there we go.
          Back together again~!

      • Haploid

        peace of mind is just ‘nice’ time passing, I just don’t get why people suddenly freeze up when talking about death – do you~? Passions Inflamed, passions inflamed, passions I-n-f-l-a-m-e-d

        • I remember one day when my mother was being awfully brave and mentioned death … and I said that I think about it most everyday.
          She was almost `shocked to death`.

          I think death is about the only `godsend` in this shit system.

          • amoeba

            I quite like being asleep, to be honest.

            • pw

              The best sleep I ever had; it was a two hour op to fix my knee…. as I woke I remember thinking “wow what a great sleep!” (Cant properly convey why it was great other than feeling emergent/ clear headed!)

              It was about then the full pain hit and spoilt the moment!

              My main take away from the experience was surprisingly a loss of any concern about death/mortality.

        • amoeba

          This is a cultural issue.

          The East has a much more relaxed attitude to dying, it is considered part of the normal cycle of life. Often the dead relatives are displayed at home for a few days.

          In the West we don’t like to talk about it, and generally the deceased are whipped off out of sight pretty quickly.

          I don’t know why, but that seems to be how it is.

          • Haploid

            I suppose the west would accuse the east of still being ‘backwards’ in this regard though not sure what word the east would use to describe the west for their relatively ‘dry’ for their lack of emotion over it. But you say most when you say nothing at all it seems.

  • CSArichardo

    I am surprised there is no talk of South Africa splitting up ? Not sure what is holding that country together ?

  • amoeba

    I don’t think there is any real difference.

    Brians just like to be kept occupied.

    Even the hunter gatherers, when not chasing after triceratops to cook on the barbie, engaged themselves with grafitti and also presumably did the same sort of “spare time activities” such as making rhythmic noises and movements, gossiping, beating the brians out of others and bonking each other that 21st century peeps still get on with.

    Whether an activity is “productive” and “non-productive” does not bother the brian. Just as long as there is something to do.

    • There is a silly word that, in a strange way `changes everything`.
      The word is `freedom`.

      • amoeba

        If I have understood where you are on this, then freedom just changes the mix.

        • Freedom can be (should be) dealt with on the Three Levels and as a `known` and as a `feeling`.

          It is trying to get one answer to these things that gets no one anywhere.

  • CSArichardo

    POM – Cycle of life ?

    Born until 10 – playing, learning (lots of play/parents look after food and shelter)
    Age 10 to 20 – training, mostly in formal schools (some play/parents look after food and shelter but you might go out hunting and fishing if you live in the country)
    Age 20 to 30 – finding oneself (survival activities learned/some play/suckered into using borrowed money)
    Age 30 to 60 – a slave to family and/or work (less play and more food, shelter focus, called independence)
    Age 60 to 70 – hanging out/figuring what to do (gardening, Tele, babysit grandchildren, keep working, etc)
    Age 70 to death – government/state pension (basic food/shelter covered in nursing home) lots of opportunity to play, keeping the mind occupied (the less of this the faster your death)

    – just my initial go at it !!

    • Fairy snuff … now try to `dig` a bit.

      Go through your list … and ask `how` and `why`??

      Make like your list is `banking as seen on the television` … and you are going to `dig-up` what is actually going on.

      • CSArichardo

        Born until 10 – Peppy the Pig, Sesame Street
        Age 10 to 20 – Road Runner, Bugs Bunny, Batman, Thunderbirds,
        Age 20 to 30 – The Simpsons, Gilligan’s Island, Big Bang Theory, The Office, Outer Limits
        Age 30 to 60 – Married with Children (TV show), Seinfeld (a show about nothing), Modern Family
        Age 60 to 70 – A Man and His Dog, I love Lucy, The Golden Girls
        Age 70 to death – Let’s Make A Deal (game show), Bob Newhart Show, Love Boat

        • Fine job.
          That is Level1 taken-care-of.
          Would you hazard-a-crack at Level2.?

          • CSArichardo

            By age group I will work on it…but let’s start here for summer reading ?


            Here are some top picks for summer reading material from philosophers across Australia.

            The Philosophy Book by Will Buckingham
            50 Philosophy ideas you really need to know by Ben Dupré
            On Bullshit by Harry G Frankfurt
            The Guardians in Action: Plato the Teacher by William H F Altman
            Philosophy as a Way of Life by Pierre Hadot

  • axel1million

    Some words read from the land of inequality.

    • Good Level2 stuff.

      I have just finished my first mate.
      So far so good.

      • axel1million

        I tended to experiment with the different flavours for the first few months.
        Quite often I will have a different flavour depending on the weather, season, day of the week etc.

        • CSArichardo
          • axel1million

            I suspect all senses are biased by each other, and the environment.
            Even the moon can affect/effect someones mood!

        • It looks like the South Americans have been taking it seriously for a while now.

          I have a Brazilian brew on the go.

          What is your view on `boiling` or `non-boiling` water~?

          • axel1million

            Definitely, non – boiling for me!
            I think, if I remember correctly it’s 86C I found to be optimal.
            That’s my green tea temp, but I now use the same value for mate.

            However, peoples tastes differ!

  • CSArichardo

    1877: Cecil Rhodes, Confession of Faith from Carroll Quigley, The Anglo-American Establishment

    “Rhodes originally wrote this on June 2, 1877, in Oxford. Later, that year in Kimberley, he made some additions and changes. What follows is that amended statement. The spelling and grammar errors were in the original.

    It often strikes a man to inquire what is the chief good in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit that if we had retained America there would at this moment be millions more of English living.

    I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives.

    I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simply means the end of all wars, at this moment had we not lost America I believe we could have stopped the Russian-Turkish war by merely refusing money and supplies. Having these ideas what scheme could we think of to forward this object. I look into history and I read the story of the Jesuits I see what they were able to do in a bad cause and I might say under bad leaders.

    At the present day I become a member of the Masonic order I see the wealth and power they possess the influence they hold and I think over their ceremonies and I wonder that a large body of men can devote themselves to what at times appear the most ridiculous and absurd rites without an object and without an end. The idea gleaming and dancing before ones eyes like a will-of-the-wisp at last frames itself into a plan.

    Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire. What a dream, but yet it is probable, it is possible.”

    Yes this guy is British and his ideas continue to be supported by the Rhodes scholarship??

    • Errr … yeah …. So~?

      • CSArichardo

        My point was that race appears to be a big thing …for this British chap !??