Same as it ever was~?

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hello when of the week people that start in China from AFR Chinese steel production will fall over the next three years according to figures released at a major iron ore conference on Thursday the Deputy Secretary-General of the metallurgical mines Association of China news Yao Yang forecasted by 2015 China would demand only 705,000,000 t of crude steel that’s a fall of about 2% from this year when China is expected to consume around 720,000,000 t of crude steel something like this is my based case which means the iron ore prices headed under 80 bucks in the medium term and is going to stay there this is the mining boom going bust this is talking to Australia Reuters China’s central bank injected a net 365,000,000,001 about 16 billion bucks into money markets this week traders said the largest weekly injection in history as regulators struggle to maintain liquidity without producing inflation as XXXX inflows slow it was a bit much said a trader at state-owned bank in Beijing in reaction to the size of the injection this meaning and there is no walk at two banks reserve requirement ratio likely in the near term China does use reserve ratios as well as capital ratios requirement Reuters again the China’s steel market the world’s biggest is feeling the pinch of a slowing economy that has sapped demand for new ships and construction work its largest listed steelmaker has halted output at 3 million turns a year plant and over a third of the country’s iron ore mines stand idle in an attempt to kickstart the economy Beijing this month approved infrastructure projects worth about hundred and $60 billion at a lot in China but there is no certainty that plans to build highways ports airport runways will significant significantly boost steel demand as they were flying out there anyway the government infrastructure investment may only improve sentiment I don’t expect a big lift in steel demand at the government infrastructure investment may only improve sentiment is right that gone to FGA vill the expectations bluff madman mad than 90 gun toting mandate Elio Wattie thinking with Kuwait Turner tea it so inflationary are but what if is Dario Perkins at Lombard Street research wonders this week that’s exactly the reaction the 90 was hoping for UC when a central banks normal tools run dry all banks really got left our Jedi mind tricks and that means manipulating people’s minds on a nationwide if not global brainwashing basis mass arching expectations another one from Isabella Kaminski at A vill a time of holding and inflation fears 1930s addition it a very long article it draws on an awful lot of newspaper articles from the 1930s new were a United States at this particular one 1933 why then do our congressmen desire to manufacturer more money the money now and the bank is likely paint in a barrel as long as we have nothing to pay the paint stays in the barrel we cannot get something to paint by putting more pain in the barrel and third 20 articles drawn from the 1930s in that particular article and talk about all of them harm mainly thereabout inflation inflation when we now know in hindsight it was the biggest deflation the bust of the 20th century finish with this pulled room and New York Times conscience of liberal taken from his latest article 2 paragraphs okay the reassuring part as a card-carrying model building economist my justification for existence relies on the belief that the issues and fundamental stories in economics are fairly stable over time not completely stable I don’t think you want to apply modern Keynesian theory to Roman Empire under Diocletian but stable enough that say major financial crises generations apart share many of the same features that a liquidity to trap in the 1930s is recognisably the same kind of animal as a liquidity trap in the 21st-century alternative view would be that everything depends on the specifics that our modern service dominated economy with globalised manufacturing and the Internet and all that is nothing like the economy of our grandfathers and all the rules are different that strawman itch but there we go and over longer enough stretches that is true as I said Diocletian’s economy or indeed any economy dominated by agriculture properly was completely different but Kane uses an FDR’s economy it turns out was enough like ours that the same stylised models still apply says poorly I think our job and I’ve started it own the new website build what you think her the menu buttons at the top are most of them were starting to work now on putting things in slowly one which reads Read and then drops down to read me read them I started putting in an something not left the comments open on that one for something change over time I would go to and right into little always be there is read me what we have I think to work out between this is will make it simple what is different now to what we had in the 1930s depression around the world that really went on through a Second World War and only came out of it 15 years later after an awful lot of turmoil and half the world being flattened at my opening idea on that is 1850 oil started coming out of the ground 1850 we had the great depression in 1930 and after that 1945 the was still 60 years of cheap oil to come out and now we seem to have gone wash up and we do not seem to have cheap oil any more that is one of the major things that is different from the 1930s and could affect the liquidity trap that was then to the liquidity trap that is now through many more and if you’d like to typing comments here or there will try and put them all in that document book that one thing is certainly clear we do not have a future and that’s what debts are based on you take out debts based on a future we don’t have a future based on rebuilding the world all done on cheap energy unless somebody goes out and finds an awful lot this week and it’s Friday that is one major difference and there are a good few more like a population of the Earth but for the moment I am I think concentrating the main difference being on our those two things we do not have the next 50 years of cheap energy and we do have 7,000,000,000 to 8,000,000,000 people to take care of to give work to because work via jobs is the way we distribute money and by distributing money then the people the seven 8 billion feed themselves holiday with you thank you by

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  • Jantje.

    Shell is trying to get oil from a pretty difficult place in a far away ocean. That does not give me the impression that is much oil around to be gotten easily.

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       Daah~!
      I’m sure they could get some easy stuff …………. they are just trying to look macho and showing off~!

  • CSArichardo

    I think that the US has the big picture aim of using up other people’s oil and gas before using up their own !!?  Would actually be a really smart big picture strategy and they could use the environment as a great excuse in the golf, off the US coast etc.

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       I would agree there.  If they have a plan, that is probably about it.

  • SeanTheLight

    Perhaps I am mistaken, but it seems the energy issue is less about energy and more about politics. Cold fusion, or as it is now known Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, has been a reality since pons-fleischmann. I am sure the military boys have taken it a few steps further than the university crews (MIT’s NANOR for instance), so I have no doubt that renewable energy is already within grasp of some countries.

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2009DIA-08-0911-003.pdf

    The energy/finance game is just a scam to monopolize control…?

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       Sounds like bollocks to me.
      Governments are the most powerful things going on.
      You will have to tell me why the Japanese government went nuclear ………
      why Europe uses all sorts of stuff brought in from other countries ………
      and China thinks building coal fired power units is velly nice plan~!??

      • SeanTheLight

         I fully appreciate how incredible it sounds. It would take a conspiracy of academia and media to have pulled off such a hatchet job…US Navy researchers on the other hand seem to have taken it more seriously.

        http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sti/publications/pubs/tr/1862/tr1862-vol1.pdf

        The international conspiracy thing gets me, it does. Why would countries like china, north korea, iran…..submit themselves to energy dependence?

        But then, I never understood why USA was shipping tons of grain every year to the soviets. Feeding your “enemy”, even during times of war? Many strange things to ponder.

        • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

           There are so many things we do not know.
          That is why `the smell test` has to do for quite a lot of things, eh~!?

    • Boz

      Cold fusion; didn’t the recipe for that get taken to moon base alpha by Elvis to power Dianas swimming pool? Sticking to reality i think research into Thorium reactors seems like it has potential. Germany is proving that renewable energy can have a significant impact on a countries energy requirements and i think the most significant technological advances in the last few decades have been in material sciences from the work towards super conducting at manageable temperatures. I agree its all about the politics and politics is all about power and power is all about money sighh do you think its always been this way? Will we ever learn?

  • Boz

    Hi Nick been away most of the summer off grid, getting back seems OTP is still the most stimulating blog on the net; thanks for your efforts! Wow so sooo many things are different from the 30s not least because people have the 30′s to look back to as a model of how a depression in a modern economy behaves. Energy, population, technology all very different landscapes but i guess the money system itself and the bevy of new financial markets seem to me fundamental differences.  Perhaps there are so many differences that using the thirties as some sort of road map as a guide through the current depression, will, rather like a sat nav, drive us up some narrow lane in the middle of nowhere!

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       Thanks.
      Good call that we have the `old game` to study (and the internet to help everyone thrash out their interpretations).
      It took them a while, but I think most people now know that this is a 1930′s type affair (not your bog standard recession jobbie).

      One thing that I don’t think they have quite worked out yet, is the big question of `why it took so damned long in the 30′s~?
      Most of the time, we think the economy has natural positive momentum; but there are times when it just seems to want to slip backwards.

      Big question for now is ……. `Is the world economy on a downhill whoosh to more growth, or will growth be an uphill slog~?`.

      • Boz

        Probably a stagnant swamp which will be air freshened from time to time by new types of money or new markets whilst resources dwindle and population grows. I don’t think even a major middle-eastern war is enough of a hill to fall down to stimulate growth at the moment.

         Glad to see the beard returning to former glory ~ Samson and all that ~ !

        • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

           Did you go somewhere where you learned a lot about stuff and stuff~?
          Anything you want to tell us about~?

          • Boz

            Taken a break from bioinformatics and have been crew catering  at various festivals around the uk. Have mainly been involved with the speakers tent so have been listening to some lively discussions/debates from the likes of Occupy, the anti GM lobby, …… nothing much new except Joe Public seems a lot more interested and less likely to brush off such shenanigans as some sort of loony leftist thing. Ive been getting back to earth with the Hippies man its been good chicken soup for the soul. There are some nice people out there deluded certainly (ar’nt we all) but often in lovely ways! Not sure what to do now, the rat race looks like its coming off its bearings so im thinking about running to the Welsh hills poly tunnel in tow!

            • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

              It is a sod of a problem ……….. the old `in or out` one~!
              Money, money, money.

              I hope you get inspired~!