Getting involved

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first of the day of the list and alert getting the walls right to do it in an autobiographical sort of way looking in the camera thing always bold now tank top started this YouTube thing sure had hair still never mind a make up for it right getting involved have got three ages to go at you with and 1517 and 23 you heard of it about me at age 23 so will go back to age 15 and one of these 3/bulb memory type things of being in a maths class that is mass lesson for Americans and at that particular time Mr Steele who took the matter lessons arm seemed a decent enough bloke but I really wasn’t at all interested in maths at the time I just given up on it I given up on most schooling really and learning and was taking really not much notice of much and I’d taken my watch offering class and it was the last lesson of the day if I remember rightly within Thursday but that’s irrelevant detail and I was watching my watch which had these ancient things cool hands that ticked round and those watching them to ground in taking obviously no notice of the mathematics teacher teaching the mathematics and the overall thing was so evident that this was terminally and read slow going but it was such slow going in maiden effect on me that made me at thinking it knocked out other thoughts and one of the thoughts was just looking at your watch slows things down and it was kind 15 at the time some thinking well I actually slowing time down in the another thought in the day dreamy sort of way come to a 15-year-old and I thought one experiment came to mind which I did note on a piece of paper I was always one for noting things on bits of paper that I should or would on my way home by an ice cream it was a would of been a lolly he would been a zoom at the time which was as different flavoured water yellow at the bottom orange dark pinky red and then a really dark red right at the top and it was even ice cream it would be better with a real ice cream but still that some sure that’s what I would have used and I was going to look at my watch and eat my ice cream to see if it slowed that down because I remembered that the eating of ice cream always seem to go snap so quickly like that and maybe I could make time stretch out and stretch out the glorious feeling of eating an ice cream so I remembered the type that that came to mind but the time was stretching out so much that other things came to mind that would it be just extends you waiting a positive or a negative because I had a maths lesson which was a negative and it was inks it was exaggerating the negativity of the maths lesson the maths lesson by me looking at the watch who was becoming worse and worse because it was just going on and on and on but I was presuming that the positivity of an ice cream would be extended and that would be going home the Norman on and on so it was a kind of experiment-ish and this time the thing slows it down but seems to extends you wait the underlying whatever it is that going on so that was that and in the thoughts came that the art lesson when I’m painting as I say always enjoy painting and art lesson comes and goes just like that I is not even so much time that is involved thought I could although I could definitely say and art lesson that go quick like that where a maths lesson goes alone like that but it was more that that was a positive quickness as well over what were obviously was already be 45 min on 90 min redouble lesson to you Mohammed double long quickness of goodness as well as a stretched out Agnes and are I will done experiments on art with ice creams and other things but that was a definite hand/bulb memory in that maths lesson that started something or if not started something it continued with a leap other things that had been cogitating in the old Nick brainbox right so let’s jump on till page 17 and now I’m going to work full-time and I still got the memory of all the school staff and all this idea about time going slowly what I’m going quickly and I was working out I am all this out working stuff and how is best to do it because I worked out at 17 how many years I would have to do it for up until my retirement at 65 which was the standard and allowed of mass again because anyway was an awful long time and when you’re 17 its multiples of your age you think it awfully jolly long time so I remember this is another flashbulb memory walking down the main street going to the my store I was in a store selling things with loads of other people I remember have my round brown coat on and is working out well if I’m going to do this for all these many years I think I prefer it to go like an art lesson and rather not like a maths lesson so I was working out techniques where I could make it not like a maths lesson but not by lot but like and art lesson and the thing to do was to get involved you’ve got to get involved in its things and if you get involved it washes along how well you have not time to note the board of it or what you don’t have the board of it so it does Walsh but it needs to get on sleigh rails with nice wash to it so I did that I got involved very involved in my working day now this wasn’t please management sort of our working this was please Nick Sorter working management was often not pleased with the way Nick did things but I got myself really involves so much so that stores open six days a week we were often obviously only paid to work five I would often work six without the pay for the extra one because I was so involved in I wanted to be there and doing it and again note are often causing trouble for management but amusing myself no end and it was going quite well I really quite enjoyed those for first couple of years of working and you’re okay let’s jump onto 23 Saab into the South France comeback try to do this painting and decorating thing and was in the whole cogitating and thing for our what to do with my future again from their now what we have here is internal and external things what I just told about were all the internal things for me I’ll call internal external anyway titled all the internal is now the external is when something like when I was 15 classic teenager external I’m just talking life in general what I can see of it and judge it to be the big external life thing in life is rubbish standard teenager nothing to be shocked about normal teenager life is rubbish at 17 I had come across no reason still a teenager but an older working one no reason to believe that life wasn’t still rubbish but I was looking around at other people of the way they seem to go about life and everything and I’ve house it still seeing overall it rubbish because I was soon to learn that as I at school wanted the term to whence I could have some holidays or weekends or whatever it was it was the same two people working that would just often just working 50 weeks so they could do this two weeks of holiday and I was thinking this is not quite right the external world is rubbish so I get to 23 and done I can do more advanced ways of saying the external world is rubbish but it is still in my head I seen the South of France and all that sort of England done lots of things in the world let’s say that life in general as an overall concept was still rubbish and I’d looked at lots and lots and lots of other people are people in the South of France had lots of money are older people are younger but very privileged people that were no stars at age 20 something and pop note of it seemed to make sense that anything could be called the external world was anything but rubbish still people where working are to retire they didn’t want to retire they want it stopped working in their wanted stop working at the weekends and they could go that school on 23 so we’re back to playing golf and sailing and thinking well so this working stuff really doesn’t agree with people and they got to do it for an awful long time and I’ve seen the families of workers I kind of explained in the other video and that seemed not go too well either the whole thing about this external life was it was rubbish and the main thing about it being rubbish was the oppressive feeling of having to do something one’s intrinsic freedom will should that ever exist as a reality was mentally being oppressed or impinged on by having to go and do something that reference to Richard and his comment yesterday but that was the whole thing they didn’t mind playing golf because they could choose to play golf or saying they were choosing to sail but this working stuff now and a lot of things at home didn’t seem to agree with either a lot of things didn’t seem to agree with them and I could see the people at home with most of the things they give was orientated towards a television and they were going to watch that if in doubt for the next 50 years and the whole thing seemed to add up that life nobody quite worked out yet what to do with it for most people whether they admitted it or could see it or not life externally is rubbish but internally and this is what happened at 23 I could see the internally you could call in a selfish sort of way that worked been used in the comments and I agree with it internally I could make my life okay by getting involved so I’d done my getting involved in store I do my getting lots are much getting involved are down and self France three years although he was it was a lot of play none died done getting involved in the painting and decorating but then there was the choice did I want to get involved in the painting and decorating in other words being selfish thing it would have kept me happy enough but I knew that as time wore on I would be more involved in the external world which was intrinsically rubbish and it seemed that I could maintain my selfish world where I can control my getting involved in life going works if I got away from that very established British world and went to the south of France now this are stop it there but that’s the an overall picture of what everybody can do getting involved in this selfish way can make your own life go watch but it will always be in an overall global package when most everybody else most everything else is just in the external world which is rubbish knowledge that there you by

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  • windslice

    We are diverting away from all the crisis stuff, but I find this positive. It was getting to be too predictable.

    Anyway, that video has sent me reminiscing over the last few years as a Corporate Man. It put a smile on my face, and the girlfriend thought I had gone mad, smiling at a computer screen.

    I’m now going to drift away in thoughts of past lives, with a beer or two to accompany me.

    Thanks.

  • windslice

    Aah, a short sharp shock back to the crisis.

    Checked my email and the BoE has replied to my questions. They are pretty good at responding, although they do ply the “official line”.

    Question 2.

    2. Who receives the interest that the debtors are paying on the loans that are swapped for T-Bills? The banks or the BoE?A. The originators of the loans receive the interest, not the Bank

    Oh! This seems not quite right. The banks collect the interest, leaving the BoE with just the collateral and presumably risk, and then take the T-Bills off to the market and borrow at even lower rates. Another indirect subsidy for those poor bankers.

    And to my question 1.

    1. Apparently through this new scheme the banks can borrow from the MM at a rate even lower than it is today by providing the T-Bills as collateral. I am not sure why that should be, and we are talking about reducing the maximum that the banks pay from 0.5% to a sliver less than that. So to what level do you expect the MM to provide funding to the banks?  

    A. This is for each Money Market participant to decide. The Bank provides T-bills to institutions that participate in the FLS, against a range of collateral; it is up to them what they then do with the T-bill. There is an active repo market in T-bills, so banks should be able to easily swap T-bills for cash. Repo rates for T-bills vary according to market conditions, but tend to be close to Bank Rate

    .I now need to get my head around why a bank would want to repo T-bills for cash. They have from loans to T-Bills to cash on the asset side of the balance sheet. How does that help anything?

    I reckon another email will be heading to the BoE tomorrow.

    I really do not understand this banking malarkey.

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       MMMF’s have loads of money and need to find something (non-risky) to do with it all.  This is not easy for them~!

      Have you seen that the interest on Gilts bought by Merv has not been paid to the Treasury yet.  Still sitting there ….. up to 30 billion now~!?

      • windslice

        That is a bit incestuous.

        1. Treasury issues bonds.

        2. Merv buys ‘em.

        3. Merv collects interest from Treasury.

        4. Merv returns interest to Treasury.

        Money for nuffin.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9477121/More-QE-coming-Bank-of-England-minutes-show.html 

        “Last week, the Bank downgraded its forecasts for growth to zerothis year and the minutes reflected concerns about the economy. The Bank now believes that even long-term prospects may have been damaged.

        The minutes said: “Growth was now judged more likely to be below than above its historical average rate in the second half of the forecast period.”

        and

        ““If we thought it would add more stimulus we would do it, but asset purchase through quantitative easing is a more powerful way of aiding the economy … but we’re keeping that under review,” Mr Fisher said.”

        I wish these guys would issue a clear statement showing how all this is going to stimulate the economy.

        Oh, and sorry guys, using nuclear power to force the interest rate to zero just doesn’t not cut it.

  • augustine

    In an unrealated comment,  about shale gas, doesnt all the talk about shale gas mean shale oil is a non  sequitur.  In that it isnt going to bear much fruit so to speak.  And is off the table in that wont supply most of our oil in the future.  I mean it is alot like squeezeing oil out of rock.  It donsnt sound good.

  • Flig_in_Detroit

    I would like to slow my life down.  I feel like I am still in my 20′s but I turned 43 in July.  Kids speed your life up.  One day they are born, the next thing you know they’re seven.  I enjoyed working on the family farm when I was young and I enjoy working for myself in architecture now.  I don’t have any plans for retirement because I don’t believe in it.  This concept of retirement is a passing fad.  My grandparent’s generation was the first to talk about “retirement” and the “golden years”.  I think the more natural state is to work in some capacity until you die. But…work at something that allows your creative side to express itself.  In that way, work isn’t work in the negative sense. 

  • Axel1million

    At fifteen years old I was thinking that the whole of existence was very suspicious.
    No one could answer my questions truthfully. I thought, “these people (adults) don’t even know the reason we exist, they just make stuff up”.
    Lucky, one morning while reading the back of a cornflakes box I found the answer to everything and never looked back since. 

    • Flig_in_Detroit

      We tell ourselves stories to create a “meaning” to all this-cultural stories.  Its OK to buy into the stories as long as we know that they are really just that.  The notion that I am Polish is a story I was given.  Certain food and customs and religious practices went along with that and made life fun and interesting.  Then you delve in a bit deeper and find out you’re Polish mixed with German mixed with French mixed with Iroquois Indian and you start to investigate the stories that go along with those lables.  Then you begin to consider yourself human and you investigate the stories associated with that.  Finally you consider yourself just part of the waving aether and you look around and there isn’t much of a story to tell at a human scale about that so you drink a beer and choose your story for the week to live by. 

  • Flig_in_Detroit

    Sorry I misspelled labels as “lables” above.  Also sorry for getting so far off topic.  I am just in a wierd mood today.

  • snedmeister1

    I can remember thinking how strange time was too, as a young child….

    Not in the same analytical way, but with regard to birthdays and Christmas, or summer holidays…
    I can remember, clear as day, wishing the days to pass for our summer to start….

    It seemed to take an age, but they seemed to last longer when they finally arrived too than a comparable period of time now…( or am I looking back with rose tinted glasses perhaps..?? )…

    Six weeks off, to the young Sned, seemed like a long time, now it passes in a blink…!!!

    Getting involved or clock watching is definitely a factor, but I wonder how much age has to do with it too…?? 

    Every old person in my family that I spoke to as a child, would say “Don’t wish your life away son, it will pass quick enough anyway, the older you get, the quicker it passes”…
    I would get that line whenever I would say how much I wanted the holidays, or my birthday to come around again…

  • Nick_septre

    I have heard your arguments Nick and I have too agree. I am from that curious navel examining period UK circa 60′s/70′s. I rejected the middle class conventions of that period as well, it seemed logical somehow. 

  • http://www.richnewbold.co.uk/ Richard

    What I most remember about being 15 is that everybody else seemed to know something I didn’t – about a great many things – including what they wanted to do with their lives. I was never interested in all that “career” nonsense. At school, all I wanted to do was get to the break or lunch times so I could play football, climb trees or ride my bike.

  • CSArichardo

    I joined the military because it was a ticket to a free education, it appeared to be an adventure and maybe an escape from my small town factory life.  However I expected too much from the leadership and was not prepared to step up and take charge by staying a life time.  It was easier or more fun just to move on, which happened in 1987.  That was the first of a number of positions where I never developed into a careerist.  I would agree that to this day I survived because I got involved in doing stuff which interested or challenged me.  Still do. 

    Note that a free education was actually a great deal, for a miser like me, even though I owed a few years paid labour back to the federal government for the experience !!  

    • Axel1million

       We hear a lot of people complaining about ‘student debt’, but you have demonstrated that there is a way to get educated and get paid for it!
      A little lateral thinking goes a long way.

  • http://www.belfast-architects.co.uk/ Alan

    Defining moments, I think we all remember school lessons like that. Mine were in Primary School. I am dyslexic can spell if I don’t think about it, can’t if I do, (odd) but can decipher with the best of them.   I didn’t start school until I was well over 7 as mother forgot to register I was born! So each morning I would walk 4 miles to school to get caned for spelling.

    Then we had the oppressive nature of the place. One of my first defining moments was reading. Each pupil read a line in turn, mine was something like ‘Nip is a good dog’, but instead of reading it I asked why he was called Nip if he was a good dog. I learnt to keep my thoughts to myself that day.

    I learnt a lot at Primary school, as my interests were
    often seen as problematic and I tended to lack restraint. I would bring in live rats for the Nature Table or make rope
    swings from the trees and I was never a team player. In the middle of
    some pointless game I wandered of to transport a frog to safety. I could
    never see much point in chasing balls. Now climbing trees was something
    else!

    School taught me that authority can be abused, is often oppressive and is run by people who are often weak and deeply suspect. I have never had difficulty understanding how atrocities happen and could envisage those around me committing them and going home for lunch.

    By secondary school I had learnt all I needed to fit in and not be noticed, be insincere.

    • axionication1

      How odd. Dyslexic myself.

      Can, eerily, personally relate to all you have written about school.

      Flash bulb moment for me. As a kid looking in a suitcase that were lined with old newsprint. Seeing the old adverts that at the time would have been absorbed and reacted too with much seriousness. Thinking to myself that everything was a silly story.

  • Emmazedbend

    I was so miserable in my first job that I vowed after that, only to do jobs I liked, I wasn’t blessed with ambition so that is what I have done. Some of my friends have had very successful careers and I wonder how happy they are (to be successful they have had to give heart and soul to it, at the expense of spending time with partners and children).
    As for the time going fast or slow, isn’t it a phenomenon that as we get older time seems to speed up? My osteopath reckoned it could be to do with our brain chemicals slowing down, but I’m not so sure. I did notice when I took up painting that if I copied something once the painting was OK if I attempted the same scene again I made a worse job and missed over half the details; I drew from this that when we are familiar with something we start to edit bit outs unconsciously thinking we know all about it, but when we are unfamiliar with something we place great attention on it and notice all the details. Just wanted to run that past you as no one I know discusses such things; they all seem very content with how life is.

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       I like the explanation where we see that at age 10 ………. 1 year is one tenth of your life; whereas at age 50 a year is only one fiftyeth.  ……… Not such a big thing and so most of it goes past un-noticed. 
      (lack of consentration)

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

       Come on ….. they are content~!?
      They eat to cover up boredom (among other things).

  • Subtlepath

    I do believe one change of heart has indeed produced another for ya Nick… :-)