Clear thinking

  By Mystic | October 23, 2011 - 03:30 | , , , ,

Just let the information flow in…have faith your head will do the right things with it.
Don’t try and strain it through old concepts~!
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  • Anonymous

    Good talk. Thanks.

  • snedmeister1

    Oddly enough, I would imagine more heads travelling up orifices once people realise we are over the peak…

    In times of uncertainty and distress, people rarely find their own way….
    They look to social leaders or religion for answers….

    Generally, the answers provided by others in times like these come from the charismatic or self-deluded…
    Not necessarily those who hold the truth:( 

    This has to be a big danger when looking forward for us all, we will need open minds as you say, but I feel
    that many will take a backward step, and seek comfort in the arse of another…!!!

    • Haploid

      That does seem true snedmeister1, majority of people are mostly fearful (generally fear pervades more so than greed, me thinks) while relatively few harbingers advocating positive change turn out to be psychopaths, although when SHTF the worrying thing is that the collapse could be the spark that kindles many a latent psychopath.

      Mystic your video reminds me of an article I read a while back on going-down-the-peak and reflects on consumption and growth since the advent of oil and the major accomplishments in science and technology related areas; that if we’d just taken a more scrutinizing and even somewhat fearful approach to any major advancement placing ourselves in unchartered territory then perhaps the situation wouldn’t have turned out this way.  
      The emphasis since those discoveries was then focussed on growth and by extension consumption or rather over-consumption purely for short-term gains.
      Going of the gold standard did allow for the major expansion of credit which was a big instigator in driving this growth and most would say it was a good thing because without that expansion of credit we wouldn’t have made major strides.
      On the other hand if we had remained on the gold standard we probably wouldn’t have made the advances as rapid however, we might have valued the processes which lead to major discoveries by focussing more on efficiency in terms of waste reduction as well as environmental/moral hazards rather than on cranking out various consumables at the rate of knots.  Sure we live in a world of plenty but a large proportion of the world still does not have access to basic amenities and people die of starvation while a lot have much, too much infact you’d think they believe they are going to live for eternity.

      The way events have panned out it appears our traits of greed and pride overrided our sense of moral and environmental hazard, we have been brought up to believe in consumption as our way of life and that we’re still as invincible as ever.  Even when presented with humanitarian and environmental disaster we still refuse to give up on the old ways and continue full throttle. 
      I think the proverb “God made time, but man made haste” definitely rings true for the past 100 or so years but imagine how different it would have been if we had taken a more cautious approach – patience would have indeed been a virtue.   

  • Guest

    It’s an argument I make with my creatard friends (who also happen to be Ron Paul supporters) – that they need to start thinking for themselves, but whenever I make this argument I’m always weary that I risk them coming to the same conclusions and ideas I have come up with – and the last thing I want is to argue that people aren’t thinking for themselves simply because they disagree with me. 

    I slightly disagree that not having an opinion gives you better judgement – it’s being willing to compare information to your current understanding in a logical, rational way and being willing to change course that gives you better judgement (although you must be prepared to be called inconsistent or hypocritical if you do a 180 in your conclusions). It’s the emotional attachment to ideas and concepts that gets people in to trouble – I think.

  • Anonymous

    Well, reality is there for us all (all, who are lucky enough to have the mental faculty to perceive her), we do not need ‘gurus’ to inform us of her modus operandi… but she does not give up her secrets easily.
    She requires us do some careful and detailed thinking; after that, maybe, if she is satisfied, she may nod her head in our direction.

  • Garryentropy

    watching too much Nick makes your brain think differently
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOqE8YflKc

  • Wvolson

    Just checked in to watch the latest, and yup your still lost! Your still stuck on that stupid peak oil Shit! Go Ron Paul! Bye the way I did a youtube video under a new youtube page and its my latest favorite on the wvolson channel. We were dodging a tornado! Cheers my friend!

  • Anonymous

    ” Saints should be presumed guilty until proven innocent” sprung to mind.

    All bloody tricky, wrought with pitfalls around every corner.

    As you say, best to keep ones head out of asses (ones own too…).

    Go the AB’s. :)

  • CSArichardo

    We all have history and hence see things through our personal looking glass. 

    However asking questions seems to be one excellent approach of expanding your views and improving your judgement.  Learning how to ask questions therefore seems to be a good skill set to have in any changing environment.  Having an opinion personally developed by asking questions can therefore not be the same as having an opinion generated from being taught someone else’s opinion and using it without question.

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

      That is clear thinking (for you~!).

  • Anonymous

    Haploid ( sorry, can’t seem to be able to reply direct),

    Your referencing moving away from ‘gold standard’ towards fiat systems & how this ” let it be done” fiat system probably creates rapid advances ( all be it possibly shorter term), has fascinated me for a while now.
    That mental constructs can have such an impact. That people can unquestioningly believe in perpetual growth.

    What subtleties are at work within these constructs?

  • eastex

    Hi Nick,
    I replaced my morning sports news with a check on you and theoildrum about four years ago. I have to say that most of the discussions become a bit boring, because they fit right in with my current view of the world. Even insightful details like the “export land model” don’t really challenge my understanding of where we are headed. It just changes my time horizon a bit.

    This presentation, however, gave me new glasses with which to look at things. I really appreciate your effort, and I will keep you on my list of “not so foolish things to wast time on”.
    Cheers

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

      Thanks Easy.

  • Arif

    So now we have a dilema. Nick, will you make new, freash, easy informaiton video in the next 24 hours…or you will leave us with this one sophisticated important video? 

    Will you give us time to sort this out in our mind, to discuss it, to feel the pleasure of this concept?… or we will move on to other “less important”, hello-kitty-Europe-problem news? ;)  [I know, Im malicious now]

    Is this a reason why you have stoped making youtube videos? Do you feel that this could be a reason? That you have wanted to make “more sophisticated” news with “more sophisticated” audience?

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

      `More sophisticated`~? 
      Yes.
      Why~?
      Because I am capable of it.

      If we accept that it is all going to go wrong….
      We will be in the same world as everyone else.
      Then what~?………

      ………..I see three groups of people -
      98% who don’t know what just hit them.
       1% who say they know what went wrong, and know what to do now.
       1% who say they know what went wrong and know what to do now.
      One of the two 1% groups will be full of shit.
      I would like the other 1% group to be able to prove that the other 1% group is full of shit.
      For that, we need to know the facts~!

      • Arif

        I know you can :)  but that is not an aserw to my question.

        I will try to explain my self better. 

        You can also make sophisticated movies on youtube. Uploading platform is irrelevant to your skills and capability. 

        I was playing with this economical concept. As you said in video – if alcohol is not allowed then we will drink “harder” stuff. 

        I was just curious if you think that maybe one of the reason why you have disapeard from youtube was similar to banned alcohol. You was unavaware of it but you had a feeling that you will make “harder” videos when it will be more difficult to reach you? Like on opera in XIX century? Lets make it difficult to reach so maybe the content will be more sophisticated? That was my question. Did you have that feeling?

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        98%, 1%, 1%. I strongly disagree. Poeple like to use extremes – “always”, “never”, “all”, “everyone”, 98%. I think thats the wrong way of assuming. Let me explain.

        “We will be in the same world as everyone else.
        Then what~?………”
        Sometimes we need to accept it. This is life. Poeple survived a lot of shit. Wars, plagues, terror, born and death of regimes, hunger, hiperinflation, you name it. This is life and people will adopt. They will survive.  Im living in Poland and Im impressed how homeless people can survive winter when there is -20 Celsius outside. Year by year. Poeple have very strong will to survive. 

        This is just another change (peak oil, failed monetary system, and so on). Maybe the biggest change after fall of rome….maybe even greater. It doesent matter. This is only change, not the end of the world. Civilization is based on some principles. Now we are facing crisis of confidance of our principles – trust in governants, in money, promises, debts, pensions, law and order. Our current civilization can fall ot the cliff, but we will make new one. New civilization means there will be new principles. Life will go one. 

        I think that 98%, 1%, 1% is “old” fixed concpet. The same as gold is always money, gold is never money. My point is this – we dont know how the future will be, but it doesnt mean that it will be worse! It will be diffrent, maybe unpleasen, maybe it will be hard to start thinking in a new way. Storm of creatiive destruction is extremly stresfull, but it doesnt mean that it will be worse in the future. I would be more satisfied if poeple started to look at this situation as evolution. Fiat monet is not working, like bad managed company so it should go bankrupt. Our system is inefective? Ok, lets drain it in the toilet….thats the evolution. Will poeple be fucked? Yes, but they will adopt no metter what. Maybe they will adopt and create better societes? maybe people will be more “happy” in new societes? Maybe people need something else then new Ipad to be happy?

        I understand that you use 98%,1%,1% to show your point. That most of the poeple will be losers and even that 1% “smart” people will be loser, but thats an old, fixed assumpition. Why no one talks that this is change, new change (that we dont uderstand), but MAYBE it is change for better? It is easy to reapeat old scary doomed scenarios. Again – I understand that you said what IF all go in the bad direction, but I will make this new assumption – what if after all people and humankind will go into good direction? 

        I think that overthepeak society needs some hope and some believe in poeple. EVEN if I will be wrong and we all will all go in toilet I think that hope is need, becouse it creates new concepts. It gives new perspective and EVEN if it is wrong assumption then at least we will have new concept to discuss and to explore. 

        http://www.ted.com/talks/view/lang/eng//id/163

        In this video there is one extremly important lessons we can learn – it deosnt matter how many violence is outside. We will be unhappy anyway. I think that people have a problem to accept that world is getting better. They are always unhapy no matter what. They always assumed that they live in terrible times.

        Just open your minds, delate you old assumpition and start looking for “good” facts. Thats what you said in your movie – please start think without old assumption. Start asking questions. Why it can be better? 

        Have any of you every consider what facebook “like” button means? I have finished psychology and this is extremly positive mechanism. On facebook (biggest social network) there is no negative button! You cant click “dislike”. There is no 1-5 scale. You cant make negative or low value rating. You can ONLY make positive reinforcment. For example: someone  just finishing jogging, he is tired, he dont want to continue. Then he logon to facebook and post his new record  in jogging. His friens will hit “like” button to give him support. After that he will feel theirs support, that they like what he is doing. Now jogging will be more important to him, he will not give up, he will feel their support. Please remind how you feel when someone click that he like your opinion, your music, your video? How you feel when someone like what you have created? When someone appreciates it?  Social support is extremly important and facebook learns poeple how to use ONLY positive reinforcment. The brain is learning to use ONLY positive reinforcment. This is something new in our society. You can only give support and this is what we need in upcoming times ….and brain is learning how to do it! Brain is prepering.

        As I said – maybe we all will be fucked but first lets make summary of bad and GOOD changes that we are experiencing, ok?

        Dear Nick, can you make a positive update video? Im serious? Can you see a positive value that is emerging around us? I know it will be hard, it will be extremly difficult but try, please. Facts. Economy, society, culture, behaviour, anything. Please make a possitive video. 

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mHQ3JnZgvsU  (I dont know why but this came to my mind)
        Again, I dont know why but this comes to my mind - I love you all guys. I love all living beings. Please forgive me. Im forgiving you.  

        • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

          Re YouTube – I don’t know.

          OverThePeak is open for everyone to post.
          I cannot post on everything.

          What is your member name~?
          I’ll make sure you can post.
          Your passion is needed~!
          (Please use the `message box` on the right of the main page to contact me)

          • Arif

            Im logged. Arif

            OverThePeak is open for everyone to post. 
            Good point. Maybe I will make some post in the future. Atm I dont know what I can post that will be interesting :/

            I cannot post on everything.
            Thats true… but you are not posting on everything. Mostly you are posting on reality that is cracking and breaks around us (governants, banks, money, economy). What about new positive features? Humankind is not only gov/bank/economy.  Are there any new positive futures in our society? 

            I cannot post on everything.
            This is not an excuse for not making one positive video. Can we leave Europe for a moment (I know we have tipping point in Europe right now) and make one positive video? I know your mind will fight against it, but please – only ONE video. Fight it! ONE video, thats not much. you have made XXX videos….one more should not be a problem ;) Are your brain still fight against it? Tricky, isnt it? Positive, positive….just fight with your brain, hehe ;)

            ——————————————————————————————————-

            Warning – rambling.

            Yesterday I wrote that I forgive and love. I dont know why but something cracked in my mind. I couldnt fall asleep for a long time. When I wake up I felt diffrent. It is hard to describe, but I will try.

            The fear was gone. I have accepted all what is around me. You, nature, events, transforation, evolution. Its hard to describe what EXACTLY I have accepted IT in my mind. The feas is gone and Im happy. Im greatfull. Just becouse. Nah, i dont know how to say it.

            Ok, maybe example will help. the best way is to experience it be yourself. Words are not enought to describe it. For example when your mother/brother will die – you should to experience it by yourself……..How to describe it…maybe this way. Im not a religion person but I supose that after you will finish your confession you will feel some kind of relief. I think that you can compare it. I felt some kind of relief.

            Slowly it starts to sort out in my mind. Forgive and ask for forgivnes. Old religion concept.  I have extremly hard challage for all of you. Will you be able to spontanously looks into eyes of other person and say “forgive me. Im forgiving you”? Will you say this honeslty? Will you be able to do that? I think that I’m not able to do that. I have made it on forum and it is MUCH easier, but it is extremly difficult to make this statsment looking at someone at the same time.  Will you be able to do that? This is difficult challange

            Why something cracked in my mind? I dont know but lets think for some explaination. I have said very positive statement. Is my mind proud of me and he gives me some kind of relief? Why I feel diffrent? Maybe it works like this – you are stresed before hard exam. After you pass it you will have strong feeling of relief. “You have make it…..uff….thats was hard. Now I feel much better. Oh, Im so happy. happy, happy. all this stress is gone. Yupi.  I feel much better now. :) ”  Did I felt the same? Did Nick will feel something simmilar when he will breake and he will make one positive video? Will he make it? ;) Will our civilization/society will feel some similar feel of relief after this stressful test? 

            O boy, new concept just appeared in my mind. Will our mankind will feel the same feeling of relief after this exam is over? Now we are extremly stresed. We will have our exam very soon. Will we pass it? “I havent learnt enought. I dont know everything. Im not well prepared to this exam.” But what IF we will pass it and we will feel strong feeling of relief? This feeling of relief is like some kind of drug. Strong relief, so strong feeling of happienes. You will feel much more “happy”.  Just beocuse. What people will do with this feeling? What if they will feel so euphoria that they will say “I love you, forgive me and I forgive you”? What if more people will say the same sentence? Will this feeling will be sreading after this huge burst of relief? 

            This is odd concept and I dont understand it well atm the moment, but my point is this. I have made it. Something cracked in my mind and now I have strong feeling of relief, feeling of harmony. Maybe it will pass tommorow, but atm this feeling stays with me. What if there will be other people who will make the same statment? I have made it, maybe others will make it? What if other people will feel strong feeling of relief after this stress test is over and they will be so happy that this is over so they will say simmilar statment? 

            Nah, I have lost a track. I have lost my point. This doesnt make sense. Something is missing. Something has changed in my mind and I dont understand exaclty what it is. I will leave this rambling with you, Maybe you will find something from it. 
             

            PS. Just please dont say that people will be hungry, they will be fighting for food like annimals and their brains will switch off and they will have no normal emotion. Their brains will be switch on and all psychological effects will be working fine. Structure of brain will not change, DNA will not change. They will be working as usual. Effect of relief will be working just fine. The question is – will they feel that? And if yes, will it make any diffrence?

            • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

              You are now an `author`.
              Don’t say you have nothing to say…
              …you just commented as long as three normal blog posts.
              There is a video – http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/archives/1022 which may help
              (note to self * I must make a new one)

              Note: You will star in tonight’s video~!

              • Arif

                I mean – I dont have idea what the next topic can be. There is so much already opened. There is too much unaswered questions. I dont need new ones atm.
                Few days ago I have finished writing my book (my brain is already full of concepts and Im trying to sort them out). After I  finished it I have spent more then 20 hours on overthepeak. In last few days I have created so much stuff, so much new concpets in my mind that I need to slow down. I need time. My brain has cracked. Their is too many thoughts in my mind.I will watch it soon :)

        • Anonymous

          I appreciate what you have had to say Arif.

          A kick in the pants.

          Thanks.

  • http://www.outoftheboxinsight.org Outoftheboxinsight

    The Universe unleashing itself…….great video, very true. The mind will tell you that it’s hard for traditional perception to let go -but once you start to go down that rabbithole, paradise and heaven unfold in an extraordinary way, it’s worth the journey and the experience of true liberation. But the correction of Self is an inner job…the alchemical miracle, believing is Seeing. And the other side of the peak indeed get’s to be a challenge without the ‘software’ upgrade.

    Great interview for anyone interested in the brain and expansion of the mind, Joe Dispenza is a great translator in trying to explain the ‘software’ called an identity http://youtu.be/0XcCoDlVf-s

    Excellent clip from the movie Defending your Life http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4377656/Judgement%20day.flv

    Thank you M

    • http://overthepeak.com/wordpress/ Mystic

      I can’t push the `relax and let it flow` angle…..only two or three people would understand.
      (I knew you would understand)

      I think it is important, but I don’t know how to go about it.
      Tonight’s video backs slowly into it (but will never get there~!).

      Hello T.
      (I have videos loading now)
      thanks.

  • Arif

    Nick said – Just let the information flow in…have faith your head will do the right things with it.
    Don’t try and strain it through old concepts~!
    Before reading it – check all what was written in “sharing” video section. I will be talking openly to everyone. 

    What was a main point of this video – try to open your mind, be open for new ideas. Try to look from the diffrent angle. That is what Nick tried to share with us. 

    I will share with you guys what I think about this “outside the box” thinking. For last few days I was posting on diffrent subject. I have pushed wealth topic forward. I shared my view why people want more and more. I wrote about “old people” peak oil. I tried to point out that progress is still making, but in a diffrent way. Oil is not everything. We created some kind of sharing sefl-suffiecient society idea. I explained facebook likt it button, decreasing violence concept. Positive progres that is being made. I tried to show you “bright” vision of future. I had tried to show you that this is only some kind of evolution progress. Then I have tried to change your way of thinking.  I have tried to exceed your mind barriers (maybe it was not succesful, but I have tried). 

    When I read all your comments it seems that I was “fast and furious”. “Your passion is needed”, “I appreciete it” and so on. So why at the end I was stoped?  The feedback I received was – you make too much questions, stop flaming, try to think like we are, dont jump too quick. Dont think too fast. Why? I even have explained it why I was stopped by Nick (bricks and caslte). Im making a lot of questions buy Im making a lot of anserw too. Im have explained a lot of stuff. I have moved all this wealth debate. How much have you learned for those few days? You want to learn more? Then help me or start thinking diffrently by yourself. SHARING knowledge. Cooperations. Work us one (overthepeak) society. Help others. Help each other. Atm you are only talking about “sharing and claer thinking” but you are not making it. So please start doing it. At least thumgs up stuff that you like if you dont know how to replay!

    Again – “Don’t try and strain it through old concepts~!”.  It seems that I have a potential to think in a diffrent way. I even asked you to help me – just replay my quesitons. Most of the time I need ONE word to keep my mind working. I will find this ONE important word and I will create new concepy. I will move the subject forvard. I will help YOU to understand all this crap.  I even have tried to learn you how to do it. I have tried to help you to exceed you mind barriers [kiwi dont fly, but it flies], but you wre not listening. Your brains were defeneded by your brains. Some of you guys have strong big castles in your mind. Your way of viewing the world is already builded and you dont want to change it. It is hard for you to move bricks (concepts) all around. You dont want too many questions becouse it can destroy your castle if you pull out too many questions (bricks) at the same time. But sometimes it is needed to COMBINE 10 questions to make one, becouse they are closely connected. It is not a passion that I have. I just make questions….anserw came after, sometimes at the same moment. You dont need pashion, you just need to start asking questions. You dont know what kind of question? Then make an replay to one of mine. 

    My point is this –  you guys want to think “out side the box”. It is not that you cant. No. You can, but you dont want to. Your brain dont want to. You need to talk with your brain about it. Nick already talk about similar stuff some time ago – about how he felt the pain when the leg (or thumb?) was hurt. [oh, I have crashed my finger. I feel pain, interesting story. Oh, my chest is moving faster, very interesting. Something changed in my stomach and so on]. Your brain does exactly the same. He is working “before” you. Only way to think “outside” the box is to understand when brain is working “before you”. Example. Imagine that you are making conversation with your brain. You and him – oh, you (your brain) are defending the castle, my caslte, our castle. I see why you (your brain) wanted me to write this. Im (Nick) watching you (Nick brain). I understand why you (brain) are trying to defend my concepts, you are protecting my from too much stress. I know it will be easier to defend it, but I will try to stop you (brain) for doing it. I will think about it again, I will react not as you (brain) was planning. 

    If you dont want to do it by yourself then just anserw to my questions ;) I will do it for you :P:P [now you have motiviation to do it by yourself]

    See you later alligator.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pBAtdm4Xus&feature=related 

    Just a thought – damn, common peoples brain will be defending their castles even stronger. People will do stupid stuff becouse of that. Brain will react and he will defend peoples concepts much much stroneg, becoue there will be MANY bricks fying around. There will be MANY quesitons why every thing has changed. They will be totaly lost. I think that there will be not us much logic in human behaviour when the brain will be concetrated on defending their castles. We will see.